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Another VX-1 conversion thanks to Dugas

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Hey there,

I am happy to report that my 2006 Vectrix VX-1 is back on the road (with a vengeance) thanks to a Nissan Leaf battery pack from Hybrid Auto Center and a lot of help from Dugas Engineering.

The NIMH batteries in my VX-1 died from letting it sit too long without charging and it sat dead in my driveway for way too long. After reading some posts on this site, I finally got a pack to install. Installing the pack is super simple. Especially if you watch you tube videos from this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8vCzJJI9NYIdU57vGu6VNQ

But getting the pack in was the easy part. After that I tried finding software and tools online to upgrade my controller and charger. This ended with my bricking my controller. I ponied up the $20 to ask Dugas a tech support question and boy am I glad I did. They helped me not only getting my controller flashed and working again, but also built me a custom adapter to be able to use an ELCON charger instead of the old (prone to fail) Vectrix charger. The ELCON is sweet and Dugas provided a complete kit for replacement. This included all the mounting hardware, an adapter box to adapt the ELCON connections to the existing Vectrix connectors, and really great instructions. I have replaced the software on both my controller and charger with the latest stuff from Dugas and my bike is working great. They even send me updates periodically.

The final step is installing a BMS from my friends at Lightning Motorcycles.

Now that it's upgraded, I'm still working on range calculations, but it's easily double what I had with the original batteries. The bike is a lot faster and seeing a top speed of about 70 now.

Just wanted to post this for anyone else considering a conversion. The packs are still relatively hard to find, but if you can get one and connect up with Dugas you should be in pretty good shape. Now that my VX-1 is on the road I would love to get my hands on a VX-3 and do the conversion on that. They seem to be really hard to find. If anyone has one they'd like to unload, please let me know.

In any case, here are the links to the people I worked with for my conversion:

http://www.hybridautocenter.com
http://www.dugasengineering.com
http://lightningmotorcycle.com

For software updates I'm using Vectrix Diagnostic Software version 1.0.2.1. I use the VX1Li panel.

Hope to see more of these on the road soon!


Scooter diag instructions and error codes

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I have scooter Diags instructions and error codes from Vectrix if needed

Still here, but also elsewhere

TC Charger - what will fit?

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Working out my strategy for upgrading my VX-1. While my ESD charger is working, my thoughts are that when I switch to Leaf cells, the charge time
Is going to be quite long. I also don't want to ride a science fair project either. (Though I'm impressed with Ben Nelson's supplemental chargers)

Since Dugas Engineering makes an interface for the TC charger to the Vectrix, it seems the way to go. The big question, what's the highest capacity TC Charger that will fit? The PFC2000? The 2500? I doubt the 3000 will. Also, does anyone know if the Dugas interface needs a CANBUS version of the charger to work?

At least with any of these a higher charge rate should be available on a 240V source.

Vectrix Vx-1 18650 batteries

2007 VECTRIX VX-1 FOR SALE $1000 OBO / SELLING FOR PARTS / BATTERY DIED

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Please note: This scooter is not working due to dead battery.

2007 VECTRIC model VX-1 color silver VIN #SZCAASRU6SAA00720 for sale with pink slip by original owner. Asking for $1000 obo Has only an estimated 30,000 miles on this bike. Battery died so I don’t want to spend money on upgrading it. Selling this scooter for parts or to some one who is mechanically incline that can DIY and get this scooter running.

Scooter has always been kept inside garage for storage and charging. The bike runs perfectly and has no mechanical problem. Latest software updated in 2011 by Vectrix which allows the bike to go up to 72MPH max. Right side body had scratches.

Additional upgrade on scooter:

- upgrade windshield: taller, wider and larger windshield for winter riding and this also helps with reducing wind noise.
- upgraded lower seat: allowing me to fully plant both my feet on the ground nice and flat properly reducing the weight of the bike, I am 5' 7" weighting 130lbs and the scooter weights about 500lbs.
- custom made chrome seat handle bars for passenger: was custom made and it looks gorgeous like it belongs on the bike.
- upgrade GIVI E470 storage box: GIVI monolock box model E470 size 47 liters with silver case top to match the silver of the bike. The Givi box along cost $400 and this box is large enough allowing you to fit two small size helmets. I also have added a backrest cushion with Givi logo on them onto the back of the box so the passenger can have a proper back rest when going over bumps.

Any one interested, please PM me or contact me directly at steven@stevenlam.com

This scooter has been used lovingly and has been very well taken care of. A great alternative to those the gas scooter.
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Zapino Controller innards

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Hey folks. I have a 2007 or 2008 Zapino that I converted from SLA to Enerdel Lithium-Ion batteries. It lost almost 90 lbs of weight (~275 to ~185) so was a blast and super zippy to ride around. Unfortunately, since I was having so much fun and riding it so hard, I blew up the controller. I've been posting on Endless-sphere about it and the innards of the controller are somewhat surprising. If you're interested, you can check out the thread over at endless-sphere. https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=74412

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Generic BMS for LEAF cells (or any other chemistry)

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Hi all,

I'm working an a generic BMS which can be used for Vectrix with Leaf cells, or any other chemistry.
The BMS will do as it name implies, just monitoring so no active balancing for now.

The last weeks have been really busy but i could find some spare time to:
- think the whole thing over
- create schematics with Eagle
- setup prototyping
- working on the software (Atmel based)
- create PCB's in SMD format
- get familiar with the SMD reflow proces and all
- creating first batch of boards

The system is modular based of 8-channel boards which can measure 8 individual cells connected in series.
It can measure between 1 - 15V per cell so it can be used for any chemistry or setup.
The current backplane/mainboard can take upto 5 boards so its a 40cell max for now.
It is designed for 64cells max though with a max voltage of 200V for the pack (but more cells with max 500V is possible also when other parts are used).

Heres a picture of the bare modular boards, pretty small, just under 5x5cm each.

Bare boards

And this is after my first attempt of SMD reflowing :-)

8-channel-board

I'm currently working on the displaying part.
At this time i'm thinking of an (optional) 20x4 LCD where the voltages are represented as bars, so it takes 2 lines of 20bars to get a complete overview of a 40cell pack.
The other two lines could provide some other information if wanted.
The systems outside communication will probably be CAN based also so integration with the Vectrix dash showing particular cell-over/under voltages is planned, even without the extra LCD.

If anyone has other ideas let me know...

Paul

I need a esd's charger

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Would anyone possibly have a esd's charger they would sell? I just bought a 08 with only 24 miles on it, but the darn charger isn't working. I stole the charger off my 07 just to put that 25th mile on it. Thank you Jim

Reliable High Performance Battery Enoeco BT-P380

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Hi I recently tested a battery pack and it worked greatly on my 36V 350W rear drive pedelec. I got a PAS range of up to 100km at one single charge.
Enoeco BT-P380 http://www.enoeco.com/product/bt-p380-e-bike-lithium-battery/
· 36V 10.4Ah
· 13S4P with Samsung 18650 cores
· With a sleek chassis
· BMS-protected (yes it's important)
at a reasonable price $185.

MC for sale on ebay (australia)

Torque-Sensing Rear Drive Kit Supplier

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Hi community, we're Enoeco Ltd. and we offer a complete range of innovative e-bike conversion kit products featuring a torque sensing system.
We are now looking for European and American distributors, welcome to visit our website for info about us and our products: www.enoeco.com
enoeco kit T1

New factory rear tire shipped for $30

Mid Drive System Test- Climbing

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Hey this is Enoeco Limited and we just tested our latest mid drive system on a 25° slope. Check how we nailed it!
This system is subject to further modification and you may expect next summer. ;)
http://youtu.be/vdklRFIhLiI


In need a ESD charger

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I'm looking for a ESD charger for my Vectrix...

Configurable ESD firmware

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Hi all,

After some initial testing we release V1.0 of a configurable ESD charger firmware. At this moment this firmware only works together with Pauls Magic BOX (V1.55 firmware). Look in this map for the files and further details:

Https://app.box.com/s/8z1c1b9009abwyv5r2sl044uvjw1kwev/1/5833555593

Try or use at your own risk!

Feel free to add your experience or questions in this thread.

The Douglas Pidcock 1922/1942 Electric Motorcycle -- a very early EV Motorcycle

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The following information about an early early early electric motorcycle, in Great Britain, was found on eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Douglas-Pidcock-1922-1942-Electric-EV-Motorcycle-18v-Veteran-Vintage-Historic-/231786664320?&afsrc=1&r...) and retrieved with a hat tip to Ted Dillard's blog post (https://evmc2.wordpress.com/2015/12/20/the-douglas-pidcock-19221942-electric-ev-motorcycle/)

It's an 18 volt motorcycle, with 3 6 volt lead acid batteries. The speed controller is a switch that selects 6v, 12v and 18v.

According to the eBay listing, it was originally built from a Douglas 2 3/4 frame then modified with Mr Pidcocks own parts, some of which were from BSA. Mr Pidock converted the motorcycle using for a daily commute to work at a engineering company in Peterborough during the time of petrol rationing. (1942/3 === WW 2)

Max speed is 18 miles/hr. Riding is quiet with just tire and chain noise. Speed is selected by a lever 3 positions 6v, 12v and 18v and the clutch lever operating a Lucas solenoid switch to bring in the motor. The motor is a Morris lorry starter motor. I've had a new industrial charger made and the bike is fitted with 3 x 6v heavy duty rubber batteries.

The PDF attached below has the eBay listing with full details.

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WINTER TIME IN TAMPA,FL. (12-21-14)

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I THINK IT'Sgoing to reach (82) today nice and warm.2015-12-21 12.12.11.jpg

My Leaf conversion, using Vectrix original software

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Merry Christmas to all.
Today I am so satisfied, just has to share it.
Have been studying Leaf conversions on this forum for a long time, and have been looking for a scrapped Leaf.
Finally I found one, and bought the battery at once. NOK 12500,- is about 1400 Euros. Shared battery with Martin in Stavanger, Norway.
Mounting battery went well, but I had some issues about charging With Runke Charger. Ended up buying Vectrix BMS and new mainboard for charger from Vectrix Parts. (Have not seen this version on the forum.?)
(My Runke charger was an early version, if it had was newer, a simple download would make it work.)
BMS was placed where fans used to be, and connected through original Leaf busbar.
Downloaded original Li firmware for MC and ICM. BMS and charger mainboard was delivered with upgraded software for 60 Ah.

Quite some work doing this for the first time, but today I drove for 110 km in cold weather. The bike is as new, and all functions are working together.
Guess it is normal on Li Vectrix, but I like the menu where you can see battery Voltage, Amps, Hi/low cell Voltage, and temperatures.

Guess conversion can be done cheaper, but so far I am really satisfied.
Only downside so far is that Scooterdiag do crash when communicating with upgraded charger. I had to disconnect Canbus from charger to check BMS function and download firmware to MC/ICM. So if an error occurs I have to do the same again. - Do anyone have know why this happens? Scooter is working fine.
Max Cell voltage was set to 4.15, and minimum to 3.0. Think I got red light at 3.1 V. Wonder if scooter will stop at 3V..?

Well, wrong time of year, so will store bike until spring. - Do anyone know how to store Leaf cells? Think someone wrote they should not be full..?

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